Bernadette Wesley on bridging inner and outer transformation
...you help people have a self-interest for doing the inner work? What's the sell? Bernadette Wesley: That's a great question. Because that has been my challenge over the many years. I started out with really focusing on the inner work and being a mind-body practitioner, a therapist and then moved into the org...more
...te of change just seems to be palpable, and increasing the speed. So there's this tension. And if we start there, what are the tensions? What are the challenges? I'm hearing even really progressive companies saying, 'our people are saying that this is becoming a burnout factory'. Especially in tech and in sof...more
...icago. And he always said, never mix your personal life and your work life - it was a mantra. So I think I'm in this work because it's still really a challenge for me, honestly. I want to show up looking good. It's just in my DNA. It's in my family of origin's value system of success. It's still my learning ...more
Pasteur Byabeza on transitioning to self-management at Davis College
...al and develop those skills. Especially those basic communication skills that you expect everybody to have. And poor listening skills can really be a challenge to a team - those are skills that people have to be really intentional about. We're very intentional on helping our team to develop those skills. Tho...more
...e that you start from totally influences the journey and how you see the journey. So I'm curious to hear from you, what have been some of the biggest challenges in this shift? Has it been challenging for, for certain people? Has there been resistance? What have been some of the painful moments along the way? ...more
... challenging for, for certain people? Has there been resistance? What have been some of the painful moments along the way? What have been the biggest challenges? Pasteur Byabeza: You're right. Of course, every every change comes with the challenges. You mentioned resistance - and yes, resistance was there. Li...more
Edwin Jansen on how people adopt self-management at Fitzii
...or maybe ten people, four years ago when we started and we, like everyone, had read Laloux's book and were quite inspired by that and we had seen the challenges or the limitations, I like to say, of the 'Green, Orange' paradigm. And after reading the Laloux's book we realised these are the limitations of the ...more
...n Jansen: Well, after reading Laloux's book we obviously started experimenting with the advice process and yeah, that obviously works quite well. One challenge there is people not intuitively knowing in each case how much advice to get and what vehicles, like: "Should I post this and seek feedback? Should I ...more
...the most challenging aspects of becoming a Teal or self-managing organisation? And what are the things that perhaps people don't realise are gonna be challenges? Edwin Jansen: Well, the first thing I would say is all or at least many of the challenges that people think that they're going to have don't materia...more
Ruth, Taryn and Philippa from Mayden, a health tech company that’s Made Without Managers
... the behaviours for leaders and leadership within Mayden is about supporting other people to shine, supporting other people to develop, to listen, to challenge, to champion. And it's really exciting to see that emerging from our own. And these are conversations that they had with members of staff, with teams...more
...out that. So we do recognise that actually, sometimes you want a private conversation to say, okay, well, I'm thinking about this, or I'm having some challenges in this area. So again, people can really seek some space in a coaching environment to help them figure out how they want to grow and develop in the ...more
...really seek some space in a coaching environment to help them figure out how they want to grow and develop in the organisation. It's not without its challenges, there is a lot of ownership that needs to be taken by the individual to really take hold of those opportunities. And so there's a lot of tools and s...more
Aaron Dignan on being complexity conscious and people positive
...there's very little in it that's completely original. A lot of it was learned from other organisations, from other thinkers from trial and error. The challenge is not that the right things haven't been said, it's that they haven't been heard. And so my hope was to sort of package something that was, you know...more
... or changing the system. And in my view first of all, they're really hard to pull apart - they both happen all the time. And secondly, there are some challenges, I think, with focusing just on the individual - both in scale and in nature. So, the the challenge of course, is that, you know, it's very difficult...more
...appen all the time. And secondly, there are some challenges, I think, with focusing just on the individual - both in scale and in nature. So, the the challenge of course, is that, you know, it's very difficult to coach 300,000 people. So, that's quite an ambitious undertaking to say that you're going to acti...more
Jorge Silva on horizontal structures and participatory culture at 10Pines
...w you've grown...to about 80 plus people, I think? Jorge Silva: 85, yeah, right now... a lot of people. Lisa Gill: Yeah. And I guess that also brings challenges with it as you grow and so on. For listeners, if they came to visit 10Pines, I guess, pre pandemic - what would we notice? What would feel different?...more
...Lisa Gill: Yeah, definitely. What have been some of the challenges? Like have you found people, even though you have a thorough recruitment process, have you found that some people join and find it challenging to ada...more
...nd that's it. So important to be a gardener in this respect because it's like, it's your personal coach that is helping you. And this is a really big challenge for everyone, because everyone potentially can be a gardener. And it's a challenge for us to train and to give the tools to the gardeners to understa...more
Alanna Irving on leadership, decisions and money in bossless organisations
...w we could best serve these younger people who have so much to give and also so much that they want to learn. And also about how we could continue to challenge ourselves to grow - how do we find mentors that are more experienced than us in a way that is non-hierarchical, and that doesn't come with this patro...more
...that, then the stage that comes up next is what I call self-leadership. This is all about how I continually grow professionally and personally, how I challenge myself, how self- aware I am. Do I understand how I want to work? What kind of collaborator should I be and can I be? Being a good team member, basic...more
...for how we can develop or to ask ourselves at different stages, which can be helpful. Plus, working with peers who can consistently reflect to us and challenge us in healthy ways. I don't have the answers. I just kind of know what the shape of the journey looks like....more
Beetroot’s founders on purpose, self-management, and shocking people with trust
...ly different thing, when you're building a big organisation distributed in many locations, and that's something we thought of - that's where the real challenge started. And we came to a point where we felt that: "Okay, this is probably where most organisations introduce middle manager...oh, that will be so n...more
...re when we were scaling - we were growing very quickly from let's say, 30 to 100 people. And somewhere along that growth you started to see different challenges. And we had created our model of self-management - we didn't call it, we call it 'reversed hierarchy', and we had our own little pictures that we wer...more
... 'reversed hierarchy', and we had our own little pictures that we were painting and felt very revolutionary, and so on. And at the same time we faced challenges, and you kind of tended to go: "Okay, but what did we learn in business school? What do you do now? Well, probably you introduce some middle manageme...more
Gary Hamel on busting bureaucracy for good
... Is it what you hoped for, or do you think we still have a long way to go? Gary Hamel: Kind of both. I'm pleased at some progress, but mindful of the challenge ahead. When I wrote that book a decade ago, it seemed to me that we were at a point in time where organisations were facing challenges that lay outsi...more
... mindful of the challenge ahead. When I wrote that book a decade ago, it seemed to me that we were at a point in time where organisations were facing challenges that lay outside the performance envelope of the bureaucratic top down model, which we all know ofand have grown up with. And yet there were few alte...more
...out having organisations that are hierarchies of administrative capability, we need organisations that are networks of entrepreneurs. So that's a big challenge. But we've done other difficult things as a species....more
Nand Kishore Chaudhary from Jaipur Rugs on love, collective consciousness and self-management
...fessionals work with our older, uneducated people in different departments to develop a deep understanding of the business processes. I also took the challenge to teach them the basic fundamentals to manage the business and people like ours, which they never learned in schools and colleges. We also worked on...more
...Lisa Gill: What are you finding are the biggest challenges in terms of this ambition to be self-managing? Clearly you see an alignment there between what your ambitions are for the company and self-management...more
...re for the company and self-management. What has been most challenging so far in trying to start to implement that? NK Chaudhary: There are two major challenges, from my own experience, in implementing self-management. The first is: how to create a core team of professionals who are naturally naturally inclin...more
Bill Fischer and Simone Cicero on Haier and the entrepreneurial organisation
...er branding that they have created is so strong.
The people that end up working there are entrepreneurial people. **And I always say that one of the challenges of the organisation of the future is really about finding a way to attract the entrepreneurs, because entrepreneurs will be able to do enterprise out...more
...r this organisation? And I think they have succeeded to some extent to create this attractive magnet for these kinds of people. This is going to be a challenge for most of organisations that I think we will have in in the future.
B Fischer: So I think that after about 35 years, the people who hate change ar...more
...he number one); and unlocking people’s potential. **This is the simplified version that you can, you can use.
And of course, you know, there will be challenges because China and the West today are different. They are different in many, many ways. And one, I think, of the most important ways we are different ...more
Lisa Gill and Mark Eddleston celebrate 50 episodes of Leadermorphosis
...g that: What are the practices that they're cultivating from a human perspective? What's the inner work that they've been doing? What are some of the challenges they're struggling with? And also, I think really sparked by Simon Mont's work around - it's not enough to just change our structures and processes, ...more
...lar turning point I think, was speaking to Margaret Wheatley. And that's another one. I think it's the most downloaded episode that one, and it still challenges me. There's still almost like a dissonance in me with that one because of this point that she made about finding islands of sanity and letting go of ...more
...re about something, or if I have a real burning question then I'll go and seek out one of those people, or if I hear common questions, or real thorny challenges people are wrestling with, I'll go and seek out someone who I know is going to shed some really valuable insights. And I've also been trying my best ...more
Peter Koenig on source, money and consciousness
...ce of this resonance towards them, repeated hundreds of times and in different kinds of iterations. And where they are challenged. I've been inviting challenge all the time from the very start because I'm putting out something which seems to be wrong, I want to know, and I want to be able to test. So where p...more
...Lisa Gill: It's a good starting point. And I think I'll come back to some of the common challenges that come up when I talk to people and when I've seen your work discussed out there. So perhaps a good place to go from here then is for you to share...more
...because if you look at his various levels, he's bringing people up from the level before, well okay, bringing them up to green, where I would say the challenge is that many of these greens think they're yellow or turquoise and they've just got it at an intellectual level. But actually, there's a whole transf...more
Michael Y. Lee on lessons from researching self-managing organisations
...of the leader as building the right structures and processes to support self-management, to support empowerment. And I think that this is based on or challenges the often misguided notion that structures are inherently restrictive and coercive, when in reality, I think it's much more about structures can actu...more
... it's structured hierarchically. And so we're so used to that. We're so habituated to operating within that type of structure that, in many ways, the challenge is how do we unlearn all of these habits? And so I think, on the one hand, it's both: there are promising signs of growing interest in this and I als...more
...ace to face. And so what are some of your findings in that field? Michael Y. Lee: I think globally dispersed teams face a kind of extreme case of the challenge that every team faces, which is: how do you avoid these negative, dysfunctional, hierarchical dynamics from dominating, such as people feeling afraid...more
Margaret Heffernan on how to act our way out of the status quo trap
...et over that status quo trap. But I do believe quite strongly that it's very hard to do that. You need some allies or soulmates with you - partly to challenge your own thinking, and partly to help you have arguments and debates about how it might be better, and just to get different perspectives on the prob...more
...tten about large global organisations who have done some innovative experiments in this direction. How do you manage that? Because that's a different challenge, I imagine. Margaret Heffernan: Well it's quite interesting. I think people make a great deal about self management. And it's important. But when I ...more
...out, if not out. So that's terrific. So what is the new framework with which the G7 is thinking about how they are going to work together to address challenges like the climate crisis? Well, it turns out, it's all about collaboration. It's about collaboration. It's about consensus. It's about cooperation. It...more
Amy Edmondson on psychological safety and the future of work
...e culture or the climate. To me, the most important thing they can do is just start out by just being more open themselves, being more open about the challenge that lies ahead, you know: “Wow, we’ve got this really challenging project. I’m excited about it but I’m nervous also.” So when I say something like ...more
...e way. So the Learning Zone, it’s a little bit like the research by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi who talked about ‘flow’, where you have this sense of the challenge and your ability to meet the challenge being in a nice state of balance. You know, this isn’t off in a hammock with a glass of lemonade, this is real...more
...tle bit like the research by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi who talked about ‘flow’, where you have this sense of the challenge and your ability to meet the challenge being in a nice state of balance. You know, this isn’t off in a hammock with a glass of lemonade, this is really feeling that you’re being put to goo...more
Buurtzorg and the power of self-managed teams of nurses
...Lisa Gill: What other sort of challenges or difficulties have you had in the team and how have you overcome them? Chila: Production is a challenge. Lisa Gill: In what way? What do you mean b...more
...Lisa Gill: What other sort of challenges or difficulties have you had in the team and how have you overcome them? Chila: Production is a challenge. Lisa Gill: In what way? What do you mean by production? Chila: You have to have enough clients to get enough money. Because only clients generate mo...more
...e sick or on holiday, it's unproductive time, and there's no money for the company. Lisa Gill: Ah, like productivity. Chila: Yeah. So that's always a challenge, because you have the holidays, and you have to go to courses and people get sick, and you have to go to the office. But [the organisation] wants abo...more
Anna Elgh on self-managing teams and shifting conflicts at Svenska Retursystem
... my mission in different companies where I've worked to work for a way of engaging all employees and working together. So I thought this was really a challenge and also a situation where I thought that I could really add some good things to the company. So really, the main purpose of this journey was to cre...more
...I have very good help from Tuff Training - I had very good help from from Karin Tenelius of course. I think personally for me, it has really been a challenge to have the patience and not to step forward when the organisation is asking for structure and decisions. And I mean, this is really something that I...more
Frederic Laloux with an invitation to reclaim integrity and aliveness
...ling we need. And then saying: “And this cannot continue and we will invent our way out of this.” Right? And then throw that like red meat, like as a challenge to the organisation. Like: help us solve this because, we at the top in traditional organisations can’t solve this.
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... about when my parents’ friend confronted me — I, like you, get excited by that. So I do like to lean into difficult questions and and when something challenges my worldview, I get excited about that. And I think I’m realising that I’m more and more interested in the kinds of things that we’re talking about n...more
Jos de Blok on Buurtzorg and the virtues of humanising, not protocolising
... I talk to a lot of organisations in that sector who are creating autonomous teams, they're bringing in coaches to support them, but they come across challenges, like, for example, managers feeling really threatened by it and saying, "Oh, so now I'm no longer a manager, I'm a coach", or, "does that mean that ...more